WHEN CULTURAL PRACTICES ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT OR BIBLICAL PART 2

Thank you for joining us again reading this blog as to When cultural practices are not always right or Biblical,  This will be part 2 of a 3 part series,

Summary of part 1

In part 1 we quickly mentioned some of the false premises that people have. (we will be discussing this in detail later)

1. The false premise about cultures and them being outside the confines or morals,
2. how they believe that if a belief has been around for a long time then it justifies and authenticates that belief.
3. The false premise that if a belief had it’s “root” in Christianity that all the other beliefs it holds must be correct as well.
4.That truth is relative, not absolute and there are no real truth; there are no rights or wrongs

After this we looked at what was understood be to be historical, cultural, context and religious foundations for the practice.We also discussed where Catholic beliefs and practices differ from that of Christianity and how it affects their practices. And finally we looked at the first false premise/Assumption and we looked at it from a Philosophical point of view assuming it was true and looked at the consequences that result from such a belief.   AS I DID IN THE LAST POST I START WITH THIS STATEMENT OF CLARITY

  A QUICK AND VERY IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION

Before we begin, I need to make it abundantly clear, I AM ALL FOR CULTURAL PRACTICES AND TRADITIONS,   I LOVE LEARNING ABOUT THEM, EXPERIENCING THEM AS I TRAVEL, AND DOWN TO MY VERY BEING, I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT MAKES US VERY UNIQUE AND DIVERSE.

THIS IS NOT,  I REPEAT, NOT AN ATTACK ON CULTURES THEMSELVES. NEITHER IS IT ANY ATTACK ON THE PARISHIONERS OR EVEN THE CHURCH ITSELF AS I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM PERSONALLY.  See EPH 6:12.   Rather it is a frank discussion without all the political correctness about how individuals and groups adamantly stress and get downright ornery if you suggest that the cultural practice contradicts the Word of God. What I am against is when those inside our outside a tradition hold the opinion that these things are somehow sacred and do not fall under the scrutiny of the God and His Word. It is as though they think that somehow God has given them a “get out of jail” (monopoly terminology) card that says ” I know you are a special group so we will overlook those practices beliefs and traditions that contradict my Word, and just let you continue to believe that you are without sin and guilt”  WHAT I AM AGAINST IS WHEN SATAN USES EXTREME TACTICS TO LIE, DECEIVE, KILL AND DESTROY THOSE WHO SHOULD BE IN GOD’S KINGDOM AND be SERVING HIM BUT ARE INSTEAD “THROWING THEM IN THE LOBSTER POT”. THEY ARE THROWN IN WATER THAT IS WARM AND TEPID. THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT BUT BEFORE THEY KNOW IT, THE POT IS BOILING HOT AND THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN HELL’S FIRES BECAUSE THEY HAD A RELIGION BASED ON WORKS RATHER THAN A RELATIONSHIP AND FAITH THAT WAS GRACE BASED.

FALSE ASSUMPTION #1 THAT CULTURAL TRADITIONS, PRACTICES, AND BELIEFS ARE AMORAL AND #4 THAT TRUTH IS RELATIVE NOT ABSOLUTE

(a view held mostly by those outside faith groups but also by those in faith groups especially corresponding more to the traditions cultures and practices themselves rather than the doctrine as such) The premise that certain things are amoral and the premise that truth is not absolute but subjective are closely linked and thus we will deal with them together.

GETTING A LITTLE PHILOSOPHICAL cont.

We were looking at a few Scenarios and looking at how the mindset within that belief system affects how they practice but also the fallacies that occur and how it is impossible to live in a world where there are no moral laws in society.  In order to make a truth claim ie. that raping my 13-year-old daughter is wrong, there has to be the basis for that truth. If there are no absolute truths establishes by God and enforced by those in positions of Authority, then how does one make a truth claim that something is right or wrong without it conflicting with another truth claim. Remember we were talking about basic laws of logic.

For something to be true then any contradicting beliefs must be false. According to logic if “A” is truth and “B” is contradictory both “A” and “B” cannot both be true. the opposite is also true. If “A” is false and “B” is contradictory to it  then Both “A” and “B” cannot both be false.  Also, Statement “A” or Statement “B” cannot be both truth and false at the same time otherwise it is not truth.

Back to our Scenarios. We looked at the cult group that was very extreme in their beliefs and wanted to within the confines of its beliefs wanted to marry a 13 yr old. with truth being subjective rather than objective there is no basis for making a counter truth statement as it would be in an amoral world his “truth” against my truth”. We know in this world that this is not at all realistic.  Your truth could be telling you that standing in the middle of a busy highway is ok and that you will not be hit by a car or truck. The reality is, however, that you will likely be hit by a car or truck if you don’t move because there are too many vehicles and you are right in their path.  In society, absolutely nothing would function without rules and regulations.  If a cultural practice or belief are outside of the realm of morality (deemed amoral) then the group practicing that cultural belief has a problem. They will see that there will be:

  1. a battle of truth statements
  2. a society that is quickly destabilizing and has lots of chaos because truth is relative
  3. there would be no way to counter truth statements because in order to be making truth statements there have to be absolute truths and it’s impossible to argue truth when there is no absolute truth.
  4. governments, courts law enforcement, and others would have issues with them because again it would be truth laws and morals against non-truth, and no morals (morals comes from the truth)

But what if, you say, it is a group like the Catholic church, that believes in law and order truth and in fact many of the things that are good. They are for the most part good people that go out of their way to meet the needs of the poor the hungry and the needy. They are charitable, they are meek, kind, gentle, humble, and many sincerely seek after God.  They are not trying to skirt (for the most part) being under the authority of God. They just feel that this is a practice that doesn’s seem too bad overall, they don’t want to “rock the boat”; after all it is but a cultural practice. They are after all re-enacting the crucifixion of our Lord right? Well not exactly.

  1. If it was really a re-enactment it would be going through and telling the whole story of the death and resurrection, not just his floggings, his carrying the cross, and his death
  2. In fact, my understanding is that in the Philippines Catholic Filipino’s do not see Easter as a happy time but a sad time. That is because they focus on his death, and yet Easter Sunday represents his Ressurection.
  3. The Catholic Filipino’s have false beliefs based on what they’ve been taught; namely that they are not yet good enough and cleansed. this comes out of their beliefs regarding sin, forgiveness of sins, grace, penance, and their underlying belief that ultimately it is not grace through faith, but rather a convoluted mixture of faith plus works.
  4. their beliefs insinuate that Christ’s death and Ressurection was
    1. not once and for all and was really useless the blood atonement and covering doesn’t really cover their sins
    2. not sufficient for the forgiveness of sins but needs to be added on to with lots of good works as well to make up for the “short fall”
    3. Salvation  is  therefor not complete without them doing works to complete what he did on the cross so there is really no reconciliation between God and man either which was the whole purpose. They are in essense saying (without outwardly saying it) that What Christ did on the cross failed. He failed.
    4. the other components of Salvation (overcoming such things as sickness, disease, death, pain suffering etc)
    5. It is a mockery of the terrible suffering that He did for us on our behalf because we have made a sideshow of it, where all are watching, taking pictures, and making a big production of the fact that he was tortured and killed. THere is no mention at all in the production of his resurrection and certainly no acting about it.
    6. If He rose from the dead, which was such a miraculous thing, and he did it for us, to free su from the bondages of sin and death, then should we not be rejoicing, not sorrowful.  After all, we were under a death sentence; on death row as it were. Had we not accepted his gift we would be condemned to physical and eternal death, separation from God and still under bondage to sin sickness disease and sin.  We would still be in bondage to Satan and be condemned to Hell. So, If as they claim we are free shouldn’t there be rejoicing … or perhaps they are not really free as they think; after all it is a religion of works.
  5. What they say they believe (Salvation, forgiveness, etc is all wiped away by all the man-made garbage that is NOT biblical. Let me explain it this way. If one has a glass of water and a person puts only three drops of poison or even just one drop of poison into it. Is it still water? No, it is not even polluted water or contaminated water, it is all poison. The liquid that it is put into doesn’t really matter. It is just the conduit by which the poison is absorbed into and eventually transferred into the body. But it does all become poison as there is now no distinction between the water and the poison.  Like any truth statement, where one or numerous false statements are added to that belief or group of belief systems it is all falsehoods; all lies. Remember the rules of logic. Something is either true or false. It cannot be both. Something has to be ALL TRUTH OR ALL LIES.  There is no in-between.

FROM A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE

these passage reference and refute some of the very false teachings in the Catholic church. (EMPHASIS WITH BOLD, ITALICS AND UNDERLINING MINE)

ONLY 1 WAY TO GOD MUST SERVE GOD

Joh_14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mat_6:24  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

ON SIN AND RIGHTEOUSNESS

Rom 3:10 As the Scriptures say: “There is no one who is righteous,
Rom 3:11 no one who is wise or who worships God.
Rom 3:12 All have turned away from God; they have all gone wrong; no one does what is right, not even one.
Rom 3:13 Their words are full of deadly deceit; wicked lies roll off their tongues, and dangerous threats, like snake’s poison, from their lips;
Rom 3:14 their speech is filled with bitter curses.
Rom 3:15 They are quick to hurt and kill;
Rom 3:16 they leave ruin and destruction wherever they go.
Rom 3:17 They have not known the path of peace,
Rom 3:18 nor have they learned reverence for God.”
Rom 3:19 Now we know that everything in the Law applies to those who live under the Law, in order to stop all human excuses and bring the whole world under God’s judgment.
Rom 3:20 For no one is put right in God’s sight by doing what the Law requires; what the Law does is to make us know that we have sinned.

The Righteousness of God Through Faith

Rom 3:21 But now God’s way of putting people right with himself has been revealed. It has nothing to do with law, even though the Law of Moses and the prophets gave their witness to it.
Rom 3:22 God puts people right through their faith in Jesus Christ. God does this to all who believe in Christ, because there is no difference at all:
Rom 3:23 everyone has sinned and is far away from God’s saving presence.
Rom 3:24 But by the free gift of God’s grace all are put right with him through Christ Jesus, who sets them free.
Rom 3:25 God offered him, so that by his blood he should become the means by which people’s sins are forgiven through their faith in him. God did this in order to demonstrate that he is righteous. In the past he was patient and overlooked people’s sins; but in the present time he deals with their sins, in order to demonstrate his righteousness. In this way God shows that he himself is righteous and that he puts right everyone who believes in Jesus.
Rom 3:26 (SEE 3:25)
Rom 3:27 What, then, can we boast about? Nothing! And what is the reason for this? Is it that we obey the Law? No, but that we believe.
Rom 3:28 For we conclude that a person is put right with God only through faith, and not by doing what the Law commands.
Rom 3:29 Or is God the God of the Jews only? Is he not the God of the Gentiles also? Of course he is.
Rom 3:30 God is one, and he will put the Jews right with himself on the basis of their faith, and will put the Gentiles right through their faith.
Rom 3:31 Does this mean that by this faith we do away with the Law? No, not at all; instead, we uphold the Law.

Mat_12:31 For this reason I tell you: people can be forgiven any sin and any evil thing they say; but whoever says evil things against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven

Luk_17:1 Jesus said to his disciples, “Things that make people fall into sin are bound to happen, but how terrible for the one who makes them happen!
Luk_17:2 It would be better for him if a large millstone were tied around his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

Joh_8:34 Jesus said to them, “I am telling you the truth: everyone who sins is a slave of sin.

Rom_5:12 Sin came into the world through one man, and his sin brought death with it. As a result, death has spread to the whole human race because everyone has sinned.
Rom_5:13 There was sin in the world before the Law was given; but where there is no law, no account is kept of sins.
Rom_5:14 But from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, death ruled over all human beings, even over those who did not sin in the same way that Adam did when he disobeyed God’s command. Adam was a figure of the one who was to come.
Rom_5:15 But the two are not the same, because God’s free gift is not like Adam’s sin. It is true that many people died because of the sin of that one man. But God’s grace is much greater, and so is his free gift to so many people through the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ.
Rom_5:16 And there is a difference between God’s gift and the sin of one man. After the one sin, came the judgment of “Guilty”; but after so many sins, comes the undeserved gift of “Not guilty!”
Rom_5:17 It is true that through the sin of one man death began to rule because of that one man. But how much greater is the result of what was done by the one man, Jesus Christ! All who receive God’s abundant grace and are freely put right with him will rule in life through Christ.
Rom_5:18 So then, as the one sin condemned all people, in the same way the one righteous act sets all people free and gives them life.
Rom_5:20 Law was introduced in order to increase wrongdoing; but where sin increased, God’s grace increased much more.

The Promise Realized Through Faith

Rom 4:13 When God promised Abraham and his descendants that the world would belong to him, he did so, not because Abraham obeyed the Law, but because he believed and was accepted as righteous by God.
Rom 4:14 For if what God promises is to be given to those who obey the Law, then faith means nothing and God’s promise is worthless.
Rom 4:15 The Law brings down God’s anger; but where there is no law, there is no disobeying of the law.
Rom 4:16 And so the promise was based on faith, in order that the promise should be guaranteed as God’s free gift to all of Abraham’s descendants—not just to those who obey the Law, but also to those who believe as Abraham did. For Abraham is the spiritual father of us all;
Rom 4:17 as the scripture says, “I have made you father of many nations.” So the promise is good in the sight of God, in whom Abraham believed—the God who brings the dead to life and whose command brings into being what did not exist.
Rom 4:18 Abraham believed and hoped, even when there was no reason for hoping, and so became “the father of many nations.” Just as the scripture says, “Your descendants will be as many as the stars.”
Rom 4:19 He was then almost one hundred years old; but his faith did not weaken when he thought of his body, which was already practically dead, or of the fact that Sarah could not have children.
Rom 4:20 His faith did not leave him, and he did not doubt God’s promise; his faith filled him with power, and he gave praise to God.
Rom 4:21 He was absolutely sure that God would be able to do what he had promised.
Rom 4:22 That is why Abraham, through faith, “was accepted as righteous by God.”
Rom 4:23 The words “he was accepted as righteous” were not written for him alone.
Rom 4:24 They were written also for us who are to be accepted as righteous, who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from death.
Rom 4:25 Because of our sins he was given over to die, and he was raised to life in order to put us right with God.
Rom_5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Rom_5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom_5:15  But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Rom_10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom_10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 11:5 It is the same way now: there is a small number left of those whom God has chosen because of his grace.
Rom 11:6 His choice is based on his grace, not on what they have done. For if God’s choice were based on what people do, then his grace would not be real grace.

Rom_1:17 For the gospel reveals how God puts people right with himself: it is through faith from beginning to end. As the scripture says, “The person who is put right with God through faith shall live.

The Resurrection of Christ

1Co 15:1 And now I want to remind you, my friends, of the Good News which I preached to you, which you received, and on which your faith stands firm.
1Co 15:2 That is the gospel, the message that I preached to you. You are saved by the gospel if you hold firmly to it—unless it was for nothing that you believed.
1Co 15:3 I passed on to you what I received, which is of the greatest importance: that Christ died for our sins, as written in the Scriptures;
1Co 15:4 that he was buried and that he was raised to life three days later, as written in the Scriptures;
1Co 15:5 that he appeared to Peter and then to all twelve apostles.
1Co 15:6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred of his followers at once, most of whom are still alive, although some have died.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, and afterward to all the apostles.
1Co 15:8 Last of all he appeared also to me—even though I am like someone whose birth was abnormal.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of all the apostles—I do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted God’s church.
1Co 15:10 But by God’s grace I am what I am, and the grace that he gave me was not without effect. On the contrary, I have worked harder than any of the other apostles, although it was not really my own doing, but God’s grace working with me.
1Co 15:11 So then, whether it came from me or from them, this is what we all preach, and this is what you believe.

The Resurrection of the Dead

1Co 15:12 Now, since our message is that Christ has been raised from death, how can some of you say that the dead will not be raised to life?
1Co 15:13 If that is true, it means that Christ was not raised;
1Co 15:14 and if Christ has not been raised from death, then we have nothing to preach and you have nothing to believe.
1Co 15:15 More than that, we are shown to be lying about God, because we said that he raised Christ from death—but if it is true that the dead are not raised to life, then he did not raise Christ.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, neither has Christ been raised.
1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, then your faith is a delusion and you are still lost in your sins.
1Co 15:18 It would also mean that the believers in Christ who have died are lost.
1Co 15:19 If our hope in Christ is good for this life only and no more, then we deserve more pity than anyone else in all the world.
1Co 15:20 But the truth is that Christ has been raised from death, as the guarantee that those who sleep in death will also be raised.
1Co 15:21 For just as death came by means of a man, in the same way the rising from death comes by means of a man.
1Co 15:22 For just as all people die because of their union with Adam, in the same way all will be raised to life because of their union with Christ.
1Co 15:23 But each one will be raised in proper order: Christ, first of all; then, at the time of his coming, those who belong to him.
1Co 15:24 Then the end will come; Christ will overcome all spiritual rulers, authorities, and powers, and will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father.
1Co 15:25 For Christ must rule until God defeats all enemies and puts them under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be defeated will be death.
1Co 15:27 For the scripture says, “God put all things under his feet.” It is clear, of course, that the words “all things” do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ.
1Co 15:28 But when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.
1Co 15:29 Now, what about those people who are baptized for the dead? What do they hope to accomplish? If it is true, as some claim, that the dead are not raised to life, why are those people being baptized for the dead?
1Co 15:30 And as for us—why would we run the risk of danger every hour?
1Co 15:31 My friends, I face death every day! The pride I have in you, in our life in union with Christ Jesus our Lord, makes me declare this.
1Co 15:32 If I have, as it were, fought “wild beasts” here in Ephesus simply from human motives, what have I gained? But if the dead are not raised to life, then, as the saying goes, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we will die.”
1Co 15:33 Do not be fooled. “Bad companions ruin good character.”
1Co 15:34 Come back to your right senses and stop your sinful ways. I declare to your shame that some of you do not know God.

The Resurrection Body

1Co 15:35 Someone will ask, “How can the dead be raised to life? What kind of body will they have?”
1Co 15:36 You fool! When you plant a seed in the ground, it does not sprout to life unless it dies.
1Co 15:37 And what you plant is a bare seed, perhaps a grain of wheat or some other grain, not the full-bodied plant that will later grow up.
1Co 15:38 God provides that seed with the body he wishes; he gives each seed its own proper body.
1Co 15:39 And the flesh of living beings is not all the same kind of flesh; human beings have one kind of flesh, animals another, birds another, and fish another.
1Co 15:40 And there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; the beauty that belongs to heavenly bodies is different from the beauty that belongs to earthly bodies.
1Co 15:41 The sun has its own beauty, the moon another beauty, and the stars a different beauty; and even among stars there are different kinds of beauty.
1Co 15:42 This is how it will be when the dead are raised to life. When the body is buried, it is mortal; when raised, it will be immortal.
1Co 15:43 When buried, it is ugly and weak; when raised, it will be beautiful and strong.
1Co 15:44 When buried, it is a physical body; when raised, it will be a spiritual body. There is, of course, a physical body, so there has to be a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 For the scripture says, “The first man, Adam, was created a living being”; but the last Adam is the life-giving Spirit.
1Co 15:46 It is not the spiritual that comes first, but the physical, and then the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first Adam, made of earth, came from the earth; the second Adam came from heaven.
1Co 15:48 Those who belong to the earth are like the one who was made of earth; those who are of heaven are like the one who came from heaven.
1Co 15:49 Just as we wear the likeness of the man made of earth, so we will wear the likeness of the Man from heaven.
Mystery and Victory
1Co 15:50 What I mean, friends, is that what is made of flesh and blood cannot share in God’s Kingdom, and what is mortal cannot possess immortality.
1Co 15:51 Listen to this secret truth: we shall not all die, but when the last trumpet sounds, we shall all be changed in an instant, as quickly as the blinking of an eye. For when the trumpet sounds, the dead will be raised, never to die again, and we shall all be changed.
1Co 15:52 (SEE 15:51)
1Co 15:53 For what is mortal must be changed into what is immortal; what will die must be changed into what cannot die.
1Co 15:54 So when this takes place, and the mortal has been changed into the immortal, then the scripture will come true: “Death is destroyed; victory is complete!”
1Co 15:55 “Where, Death, is your victory? Where, Death, is your power to hurt?”
1Co 15:56 Death gets its power to hurt from sin, and sin gets its power from the Law.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!
1Co 15:58 So then, my dear friends, stand firm and steady. Keep busy always in your work for the Lord, since you know that nothing you do in the Lord’s service is ever useless.

No Other Gospel

Gal 1:6 I am surprised at you! In no time at all you are deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ, and are accepting another gospel.
Gal 1:7 Actually, there is no “other gospel,” but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell!
Gal 1:9 We have said it before, and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may he be condemned to hell!
Gal 1:10 Does this sound as if I am trying to win human approval? No indeed! What I want is God’s approval! Am I trying to be popular with people? If I were still trying to do so, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Some Will Depart from the Faith

1Ti 4:1 The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons.
1Ti 4:2 Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt with a hot iron.
1Ti 4:3 Such people teach that it is wrong to marry and to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten, after a prayer of thanks, by those who are believers and have come to know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 Everything that God has created is good; nothing is to be rejected, but everything is to be received with a prayer of thanks,
1Ti 4:5 because the word of God and the prayer make it acceptable to God.

Called to be A Good Servant of Christ Jesus

1Ti 4:6 If you give these instructions to the believers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, as you feed yourself spiritually on the words of faith and of the true teaching which you have followed.
1Ti 4:7 But keep away from those godless legends, which are not worth telling. Keep yourself in training for a godly life.
1Ti 4:8 Physical exercise has some value, but spiritual exercise is valuable in every way, because it promises life both for the present and for the future.
1Ti 4:9 This is a true saying, to be completely accepted and believed.
1Ti 4:10 We struggle and work hard, because we have placed our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all and especially of those who believe.
1Ti 4:11 Give them these instructions and these teachings.
1Ti 4:12 Do not let anyone look down on you because you are young, but be an example for the believers in your speech, your conduct, your love, faith, and purity.
1Ti 4:13 Until I come, give your time and effort to the public reading of the Scriptures and to preaching and teaching.
1Ti 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift that is in you, which was given to you when the prophets spoke and the elders laid their hands on you.
1Ti 4:15 Practice these things and devote yourself to them, in order that your progress may be seen by all.
1Ti 4:16 Watch yourself and watch your teaching. Keep on doing these things, because if you do, you will save both yourself and those who hear you.

Do not be stubborn rebel and put God to the test

Heb 3:7 So then, as the Holy Spirit says, “If you hear God’s voice today,
Heb 3:8 do not be stubborn, as your ancestors were when they rebelled against God, as they were that day in the desert when they put him to the test.
Heb 3:9 There they put me to the test and tried me, says God, although they had seen what I did for forty years.
Heb 3:10 And so I was angry with those people and said, ‘They are always disloyal and refuse to obey my commands.’
Heb 3:11 I was angry and made a solemn promise: ‘They will never enter the land where I would have given them rest!’ ”
Heb 3:12 My friends, be careful that none of you have a heart so evil and unbelieving that you will turn away from the living God.
Heb 3:13 Instead, in order that none of you be deceived by sin and become stubborn, you must help one another every day, as long as the word “Today” in the scripture applies to us.
Heb 3:14 For we are all partners with Christ if we hold firmly to the end the confidence we had at the beginning.
Heb 3:15 This is what the scripture says: “If you hear God’s voice today, do not be stubborn, as your ancestors were when they rebelled against God.”
Heb 3:16 Who were the people who heard God’s voice and rebelled against him? All those who were led out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 3:17 With whom was God angry for forty years? With the people who sinned, who fell down dead in the desert.
Heb 3:18 When God made his solemn promise, “They will never enter the land where I would have given them rest”—of whom was he speaking? Of those who rebelled.
Heb 3:19 We see, then, that they were not able to enter the land because they did not believe.

THE LAST TWO FALSE BELIEFS EXPOSED

FALSE PREMISE #2 THAT BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME THAT AUTHENTICATES THAT IT IS REAL AND TRUTHFUL.

One only need look at history to observe and see that there were many scientific and other fallacies believed for long periods of time scientific fallacies over the years. Other scientific fallacies still exist like about the earth being millions of  years old when other reliable scientists have proven otherwise (those saying millions of years say such because they need millions of years to corroborate with their views on evolution (as it doesn’t work otherwise)

Just because a belief, practice has been around for a long or substantial amount of time does in no way substantiate a truth claim. there is no link between truth and length of time something has been around.  An example of this is clearly seen when we look at world religions and their start times

2,085 BC. Judaism-Abraham gave him and his people a covenant

1,500 Moses God covenants with a people making a nation under his leadership, the only theocracy

1,500 BC. Hinduism- no specific founder (some say it was earlier)

1000 BC  Zoroastrianism –  Zoroastrianism founded by Zarathushtra (Zoroaster) in Persia

Here for the sake of illustration, I have listed the first four belief systems and their dates  So I ask you, between 1. Judaism in 2085BC(the foundation of Christianity,     2. the mosaic covenant 1500 BC, 3. Hinduism in 1500 BC, and4.  Zoroastrianism in 1000 BC, which are true are true and which are false.Can you really tell by how long they have been around? They have all been around for a ling long time and yet there is a problem.  Judaism and the mosaic covenant aren’t really in contrast but Hinduism and Zoroastrianism are certainly in contrast to the first two, and I believe the Hinduism may be in contrast to Zoroastrianism. the truth is time is not necessarily a determining factor as to what is true, only to what has been around for a long time.

The Covenant Renewal at Shechem
Jos 24:1 Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel together at Shechem. He called the elders, the leaders, the judges, and the officers of Israel, and they came into the presence of God.
Jos 24:2 Joshua said to all the people, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, has to say: ‘Long ago your ancestors lived on the other side of the Euphrates River and worshiped other gods. One of those ancestors was Terah, the father of Abraham and Nahor.
Jos 24:3 Then I took Abraham, your ancestor, from the land across the Euphrates and led him through the whole land of Canaan. I gave him many descendants. I gave him Isaac,
Jos 24:4 and to Isaac I gave Jacob and Esau. I gave Esau the hill country of Edom as his possession, but your ancestor Jacob and his children went down to Egypt.
Jos 24:5 Later I sent Moses and Aaron, and I brought great trouble on Egypt. But I led you out;
Jos 24:6 I brought your ancestors out of Egypt, and the Egyptians pursued them with chariots and cavalry. But when your ancestors got to the Red Sea
Jos 24:7 they cried out to me for help, and I put darkness between them and the Egyptians. I made the sea come rolling over the Egyptians and drown them. You know what I did to Egypt. ” ‘You lived in the desert a long time.
Jos 24:8 Then I brought you to the land of the Amorites, who lived on the east side of the Jordan. They fought you, but I gave you victory over them. You took their land, and I destroyed them as you advanced.
Jos 24:9 Then the king of Moab, Balak son of Zippor, fought against you. He sent word to Balaam son of Beor and asked him to put a curse on you.
Jos 24:10 But I would not listen to Balaam, so he blessed you, and in this way I rescued you from Balak.
Jos 24:11 You crossed the Jordan and came to Jericho. The men of Jericho fought you, as did the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. But I gave you victory over them all.
Jos 24:12 As you advanced, I threw them into panic in order to drive out the two Amorite kings. Your swords and bows had nothing to do with it.
Jos 24:13 I gave you a land that you had never worked and cities that you had not built. Now you are living there and eating grapes from vines that you did not plant, and olives from trees that you did not plant.’
Choose Whom You Will Serve
Jos 24:14 “Now then,” Joshua continued, “honor the LORD and serve him sincerely and faithfully. Get rid of the gods which your ancestors used to worship in Mesopotamia and in Egypt, and serve only the LORD.
Jos 24:15 If you are not willing to serve him, decide today whom you will serve, the gods your ancestors worshiped in Mesopotamia or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are now living. As for my family and me, we will serve the LORD.”
Jos 24:16 The people replied, “We would never leave the LORD to serve other gods!
Jos 24:17 The LORD our God brought our fathers and us out of slavery in Egypt, and we saw the miracles that he performed. He kept us safe wherever we went among all the nations through which we passed.
Jos 24:18 As we advanced into this land, the LORD drove out all the Amorites who lived here. So we also will serve the LORD; he is our God.”
Jos 24:19 Joshua said to the people, “But you may not be able to serve the LORD. He is a holy God and will not forgive your sins. He will tolerate no rivals,
Jos 24:20 and if you leave him to serve foreign gods, he will turn against you and punish you. He will destroy you, even though he was good to you before.”
Jos 24:21 The people said to Joshua, “No! We will serve the LORD.”
Jos 24:22 Joshua told them, “You are your own witnesses to the fact that you have chosen to serve the LORD.” “Yes,” they said, “we are witnesses.”
Jos 24:23 “Then get rid of those foreign gods that you have,” he demanded, “and pledge your loyalty to the LORD, the God of Israel.”
Jos 24:24 The people then said to Joshua, “We will serve the LORD our God. We will obey his commands.”
Jos 24:25 So Joshua made a covenant for the people that day, and there at Shechem he gave them laws and rules to follow.
Jos 24:26 Joshua wrote these commands in the book of the Law of God. Then he took a large stone and set it up under the oak tree in the LORD’s sanctuary.
Jos 24:27 He said to all the people, “This stone will be our witness. It has heard all the words that the LORD has spoken to us. So it will be a witness against you, to keep you from rebelling against your God.”
Jos 24:28 Then Joshua sent the people away, and everyone returned to their own part of the land.
Joshua’s Death and Burial
Jos 24:29 After that, the LORD’s servant Joshua son of Nun died at the age of a hundred and ten.
Jos 24:30 They buried him on his own land at Timnath Serah in the hill country of Ephraim north of Mount Gaash.
Jos 24:31 As long as Joshua lived, the people of Israel served the LORD, and after his death they continued to do so as long as those leaders were alive who had seen for themselves everything that the LORD had done for Israel.
Jos 24:32 The body of Joseph, which the people of Israel had brought from Egypt, was buried at Shechem, in the piece of land that Jacob had bought from the sons of Hamor, the father of Shechem, for a hundred pieces of silver. This land was inherited by Joseph’s descendants.
Jos 24:33 Eleazar son of Aaron died and was buried at Gibeah, the town in the hill country of Ephraim which had been given to his son Phinehas.

 It is my prayer that you will choose the Lord God, creator of heaven and earth, the god above all gods.

FINAL FALSE BELIEF #3 THAT BECAUSE A BELIEF HAS IT’S ORIGINS IN CHRISTIANITY ALL OF IT’S BELIEFS WILL BE CORRECT AND BIBLICALLY  ACCURATE.

FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE

OVER THE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS OFF-SHOOTS FROM CHRISTIANITY  WHICH STARTED OFF WITH GOOD DOCTRINE, BELIEFS AND PRACTICES THAT THEN WENT SOUR.  THERE ARE OTHERS YET THAT STARTED OFF FROM A MORE LIBERAL OR AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN VIEWPOINT AND THEN LITERALLY CHANGED A LOT MORE THINGS AND THESE GROUPS LITERALLY BECAME KNOWN AS CULT GROUPS BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING:

1.THEY CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN BUT THE DOCTRINES AND PRACTICES THEY HOLD DO NOT REFLECT BIBLICAL TRUTH

2. THEY EXERT EXTREME CONTROL OVER THEIR MEMBERS IN AREAS SUCH AS DRESS, CONDUCT, BEHAVIORS, TITHING, WHAT THEY ARE OR ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY, (BY SOME) WHETHER THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A BIBLE THEMSELVES AND READ AND LEARN FROM THE BIBLE, (INC) DAILY ACTIVITIES SCHEDULED FOR THEM TO DO, (BY SOME) RESTRICTIONS ON SLEEPING, EATING ETC,

3.THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, CONFRONT LEADERS PASTORS ETC ABOUT TEACHINGS, DOCTRINES, BELIEFS OR ANYTHING BUT HAVE TO ACCEPT BLINDLY THAT WHICH IS BEING TAUGHT TO THEM OR RISK BEING EXPELLED FROM THE CHURCH/ORGANIZATION (INC)

4. IF THEY HOLD A BELIEF THAT IS CONTRARY TO THE CHURCH SUCH AS THE BELIEVING FOR EXAMPLE IN THE TRINITY THEY RISK BEING SHAMED AND REMOVED FROM THE CHURCH.

ANYHOW THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES FROM HISTORY OF OFF SHOOTS FROM CHRISTIANITY THAT NO LONGER CONSIDERED TO BE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF

CHRISTIAN DOGMAS AND PRACTICES.

FROM A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE

THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE THAT HAVE STARTED OUT OR CONTINUE TO BE JUST WITHIN WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE REALM OF EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY BUT ALREADY HAVE CLEARLY DEVIATED FROM THE TEACHINGS OF THE WORD OF GOD. THOUGH I WON’T MENTION ANY NAMES THERE ARE MANY BIBLE TEACHERS PREACHERS AND TV EVANGELISTS THAT HAVE BEEN PREACHING  OTHER GOSPELS SUCH AS THE HEALTH AND WEALTH GOSPELS, SOCIAL JUSTICE GOSPELS, UNITY GOSPEL, ALL WAYS LEAD TO HEAVEN GOSPEL, THE SELF HELP POSITIVE GOSPEL, THE MYSTICAL GOSPEL AND THE OVER-EMPHASIS ON GRACE GOSPELS. NONE OF THESE CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THE WORD OF GOD. ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THESE ARE BIBLICAL. THEY MAY SOUND BIBLICAL OR THEY WILL OFTEN TAKE SCRIPTURE OUT OF CONTEXT, OR “CHERRY-PICK” VERSES TO TRY AND MAKE A CASE FOR THE DOCTRINES. THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY TALENTED AT WHAT THEY DO SO THAT THERE IS LITTLE TO NO “RED FLAGS”GOING UP IN YOUR HEAD TELLING YOU THAT THIS MAY BE WRONG.  OTHERS HAVE MESSAGES THAT SOUND MORE LIKE A PEP RALLY TELLING YOU THAT GOD JUST WANTS EVERYTHING GOOD FOR YOU, HE IS THERE TO SERVE YOU BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU HAPPY AND CONTENT.

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY

Some Will Depart from the Faith

1Ti 4:1 The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons.
1Ti 4:2 Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt with a hot iron.
1Ti 4:3 Such people teach that it is wrong to marry and to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten, after a prayer of thanks, by those who are believers and have come to know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 Everything that God has created is good; nothing is to be rejected, but everything is to be received with a prayer of thanks,
1Ti 4:5 because the word of God and the prayer make it acceptable to God.

No Other Gospel

Gal 1:6 I am surprised at you! In no time at all you are deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ, and are accepting another gospel.
Gal 1:7 Actually, there is no “other gospel,” but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel

False Prophets and Teachers

2Pe 2:1 False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction.
2Pe 2:2 Even so, many will follow their immoral ways; and because of what they do, others will speak evil of the Way of truth.
2Pe 2:3 In their greed these false teachers will make a profit out of telling you made-up stories. For a long time now their Judge has been ready, and their Destroyer has been wide awake!
2Pe 2:4 God did not spare the angels who sinned, but threw them into hell, where they are kept chained in darkness, waiting for the Day of Judgment.
2Pe 2:5 God did not spare the ancient world, but brought the flood on the world of godless people; the only ones he saved were Noah, who preached righteousness, and seven other people.
2Pe 2:6 God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying them with fire, and made them an example of what will happen to the godless.
2Pe 2:7 He rescued Lot, a good man, who was distressed by the immoral conduct of lawless people.
2Pe 2:8 That good man lived among them, and day after day he suffered agony as he saw and heard their evil actions.
2Pe 2:9 And so the Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trials and how to keep the wicked under punishment for the Day of Judgment,
2Pe 2:10 especially those who follow their filthy bodily lusts and despise God’s authority. These false teachers are bold and arrogant, and show no respect for the glorious beings above; instead, they insult them.
2Pe 2:11 Even the angels, who are so much stronger and mightier than these false teachers, do not accuse them with insults in the presence of the Lord.
2Pe 2:12 But these people act by instinct, like wild animals born to be captured and killed; they attack with insults anything they do not understand. They will be destroyed like wild animals,
2Pe 2:13 and they will be paid with suffering for the suffering they have caused. Pleasure for them is to do anything in broad daylight that will satisfy their bodily appetites; they are a shame and a disgrace as they join you in your meals, all the while enjoying their deceitful ways!
2Pe 2:14 They want to look for nothing but the chance to commit adultery; their appetite for sin is never satisfied. They lead weak people into a trap. Their hearts are trained to be greedy. They are under God’s curse!
2Pe 2:15 They have left the straight path and have lost their way; they have followed the path taken by Balaam son of Beor, who loved the money he would get for doing wrong
2Pe 2:16 and was rebuked for his sin. His donkey spoke with a human voice and stopped the prophet’s insane action.
2Pe 2:17 These people are like dried-up springs, like clouds blown along by a storm; God has reserved a place for them in the deepest darkness.
2Pe 2:18 They make proud and stupid statements, and use immoral bodily lusts to trap those who are just beginning to escape from among people who live in error.
2Pe 2:19 They promise them freedom while they themselves are slaves of destructive habits—for we are slaves of anything that has conquered us.
2Pe 2:20 If people have escaped from the corrupting forces of the world through their knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and then are again caught and conquered by them, such people are in worse condition at the end than they were at the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 It would have been much better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than to know it and then turn away from the sacred command that was given them.
2Pe 2:22 What happened to them shows that the proverbs are true: “A dog goes back to what it has vomited” and “A pig that has been washed goes back to roll in the mud.”
of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell!
Gal 1:9 We have said it before, and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may he be condemned to hell!
Gal 1:10 Does this sound as if I am trying to win human approval? No indeed! What I want is God’s approval! Am I trying to be popular with people? If I were still trying to do so, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Test the Spirits

1Jn 4:1 My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere.
1Jn 4:2 This is how you will be able to know whether it is God’s Spirit: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus Christ came as a human being has the Spirit who comes from God.
1Jn 4:3 But anyone who denies this about Jesus does not have the Spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the Enemy of Christ; you heard that it would come, and now it is here in the world already.
1Jn 4:4 But you belong to God, my children, and have defeated the false prophets, because the Spirit who is in you is more powerful than the spirit in those who belong to the world.
1Jn 4:5 Those false prophets speak about matters of the world, and the world listens to them because they belong to the world.
1Jn 4:6 But we belong to God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever does not belong to God does not listen to us. This, then, is how we can tell the difference between the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Overcoming the World

1Jn 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Messiah is a child of God; and whoever loves a father loves his child also.
1Jn 5:2 This is how we know that we love God’s children: it is by loving God and obeying his commands.
1Jn 5:3 For our love for God means that we obey his commands. And his commands are not too hard for us,
1Jn 5:4 because every child of God is able to defeat the world. And we win the victory over the world by means of our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who can defeat the world? Only the person who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Testimony Concerning the Son of God

1Jn 5:6 Jesus Christ is the one who came with the water of his baptism and the blood of his death. He came not only with the water, but with both the water and the blood. And the Spirit himself testifies that this is true, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 There are three witnesses:
1Jn 5:8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and all three give the same testimony.
1Jn 5:9 We believe human testimony; but God’s testimony is much stronger, and he has given this testimony about his Son.
1Jn 5:10 So those who believe in the Son of God have this testimony in their own heart; but those who do not believe God, have made a liar of him, because they have not believed what God has said about his Son.
1Jn 5:11 The testimony is this: God has given us eternal life, and this life has its source in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 Whoever has the Son has this life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

That You May Know

1Jn 5:13 I am writing this to you so that you may know that you have eternal life—you that believe in the Son of God.
1Jn 5:14 We have courage in God’s presence, because we are sure that he hears us if we ask him for anything that is according to his will.
1Jn 5:15 He hears us whenever we ask him; and since we know this is true, we know also that he gives us what we ask from him.
1Jn 5:16 If you see a believer commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray to God, who will give that person life. This applies to those whose sins do not lead to death. But there is sin which leads to death, and I do not say that you should pray to God about that.
1Jn 5:17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which does not lead to death.
1Jn 5:18 We know that no children of God keep on sinning, for the Son of God keeps them safe, and the Evil One cannot harm them.
1Jn 5:19 We know that we belong to God even though the whole world is under the rule of the Evil One.
1Jn 5:20 We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we know the true God. We live in union with the true God—in union with his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and this is eternal life.
1Jn 5:21 My children, keep yourselves safe from false gods!

conclusion of blog part 2

What can we conclude from all that was said here in this blog?  There are many reasons that people have to make excuses as to why they feel that cultures, cultural practices, beliefs, traditions and other such things should be protected and not come under the scrutiny of anyone. Often there are long history of doing things a certain way, other times there is a cultural richness that they feel will disappear or become at risk of being lost, such as a lost culture, tradition or a language. These are very real concerns and I feel for those that are trying to retain languages cultures and traditions.  One needs to ask themselves the following question however.  “What extent would you be willing to go to retain a culture, tradition or culture if it was found to be in error. How far would  you go to defend a tradition that contradicted the Bible. When there was such a conflict would you still hold the Word of God as Truth and hold it as the higher authority or continue with the long held traditions in hope that “God might overlook those things that contradict with God’s word.

Thank you for reading through these longer blogs and It is my prayer that God will bless you as a result. I invite you to continue on to part three which is more a practical hands on regarding how to build and/or restructure cultural practices, beliefs, and traditions so they are not in conflict with God’s word

PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO PART 3 OF 3 FOR THE FINAL AND EXCITING CONCLUSION TO THIS THE LAST POST IN THIS SERIES.

 

 

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